Ithaca Arms 1911 Serial Numbers

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I was planning to pick up the Ithaca in the photos below tomorrow. It was pointed out to me by members of the CMP forum, that while the serial number falls within the last block of 1945 production pistols, the serial number is higher than the last known Ithaca serial number of 2,660,318. Any information that could be provided by knowledgeable M1911 collectors would be sincerely appreciated. This would be my first USGI 1911 pistol and I am hoping to avoid getting burned if this is not an honest example. Thanks in advance. I don't know that this serial number would overly concern me.

Many of Clawson's references refer to features on 'observed' guns. Perhaps 2660318 was the last known one 'observed'. If I was 'faking' an Ithaca frame I would certainly be sure to use a serial number that fell within the known range. I think the frame is legit. The gun has obviously been re-parkerized, which may make it less appealing to some collectors. Presuming it has the correct HS or F barrel, correct Keyes grips, and correct mainspring housing, I think the biggest driver would be asking price. If a great price, go for it.

If price is pushing retail, I'd holdout for one with less detractions. Wishing you the best!

I want to add that Clawson noted that Ithaca records were discovered in a government warehouse, and that 'many were missing or illegible due to poor quality microfilming.' That being said, he states with no apparent ambiguity that the last pistol manufactured was serial number 2660318. He also states the assigned range for Ithaca went up to 2693613, as others have stated.

This is probably a gun to avoid, particularly as a first M1911A1. No matter if it is legitimate, based on the published resources and manufacturing record references available, it would most likely be frowned upon by a future purchaser unless new information proved its provenance. An Ithaca M1911 was the first handgun I ever purchased, 31 years ago in Hawaii.

At least I thought it was an Ithaca for the first 15 years or so.Until I realized it was an Ithaca slide on a Remington Rand frame. I still have it, and it was already reblued when I bought it. The frame has not been altered, but it has many competition upgrades that I made to it about 25 years ago.

I've put a lot of rounds through that pistol over the years.I may shoot it again tomorrow. David Albert •. For some reason, this subject kept me awake for a couple of hours last night, thinking about the possibilities. I want to offer up some other thoughts on this controversial M1911A1 pistol. I still don't think it would be a good first item for a collection, but I also don't believe we can completely dismiss it without very close inspection of the firearm.

Clawson certainly did his research, and his work was the first in-depth coverage of WWIII M1911A1 pistols. He stated that the Ithaca records had issues, and were incomplete, yet he was pretty straightforward in his statement of the last Ithaca pistol manufactured being serial number 2693613. My question is this.Has anyone else looked at those same records, or performed additional research on the subject? Download free force op minecraft[1.5.2] newexploit. It appears to me that the Meadows and Poyer books took Clawson's work at face value, and cited his work in their books. It's certainly possible that there is more to it, and that we are assuming that all 3 authors fully vetted Ithaca production when that might not be the case. Maybe they did, but I don't see any additional context to the subject after the Clawson work. Serial number 2669404 is 9086 units beyond what is supposed to be the last pistol manufactured by Ithaca, and 24,209 short of the end of total Ithaca serial number assignment.

Examining the ship dates for 6 months prior to 9/7/45, delivery numbers documented by Clawson show that an average of 9422 guns were delivered each month. This means that the subject firearm would likely have been delivered 28 days after 9/7/45, which would have been almost 5 weeks after the Japanese surrender. I’m not sure how quickly we put the brakes on production, but I assume it was relatively quick. I’m also not sure what contractual clauses existed for notification of cancellation, and completion of assembly of remaining inventory. So, I guess it’s possible it’s a real production Ithaca pistol. I think someone needs to take it apart, and look for other characteristics that could absolutely confirm it as a reproduction. If anyone has done other work on the subject of late Ithaca serial numbers about which I'm not aware, please point me to it.